Modalism holds that Father, Son and Holy Spirit do not refer to
distinct persons in the godhead, but to different modes of existence of a
single person. It teaches that in ages past God manifested himself as
the Father, during the incarnation of Christ he manifested himself as
the Son, and subsequently he manifested himself as the Holy Spirit. As
one of its key tenets it states that God cannot exist in more than one
mode at a time. Continue at Tim Challies
Scriptures teach consistently that faith comes through the proclamation of the gospel, not through good works. Christ himself was not arrested and arraigned because he was trying to restore family values or feed the poor...The mounting ire of the religious leaders toward Jesus coalesced around him making himself equal with God and forgiving sins in his own person, directly, over against the temple and its sacrificial system. Michael Horton
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Monday, May 12, 2014
The False Teachers: T.D. Jakes
Thursday, February 9, 2012
Pachydermal Post-Mortem
So.
A few weeks ago there was a conference. Way back when the participants were announced, concerns were voiced about one of them being a modalistic heretic and word-of-faith shill. Those who expressed this concern were dismissed as haters who never want to listen to a man before they decide what he believes. They were told that it was wrong to oppose his being called a “brother” because, after all, he’s an American. Nevertheless, they insisted that since everyone knows what “brother” means in a Christian context this was still something of a problem. The purpose statement was adjusted accordingly; the invitation list was not.
The conference went on as scheduled. Twenty-six minutes were set aside to discuss the Trinity, which is twenty-six more than were reserved to address the prosperity gospel. Most of those minutes were spent mocking the very idea of theological clarity. The heretic answered “yes” to a list of easy questions - all the while reserving the right to clarify his answers with the old heretical terminology - and then his two purportedly orthodox questioners declared his answers sufficient and proceeded to explain that what the church needs now is love sweet love.
As bad as the conference was, it proved tame in comparison to the defense offered after the fact. When Christendom failed to confirm the proclamation of orthodoxy which had been made, the host of the conference, together with a few of his friends, said: Hey, you’re all racists - except those of you who happen to be black, you’re sell-outs.
While you let that sink in, contemplate this: we’re the haters! Continue at Tom Chantry
A few weeks ago there was a conference. Way back when the participants were announced, concerns were voiced about one of them being a modalistic heretic and word-of-faith shill. Those who expressed this concern were dismissed as haters who never want to listen to a man before they decide what he believes. They were told that it was wrong to oppose his being called a “brother” because, after all, he’s an American. Nevertheless, they insisted that since everyone knows what “brother” means in a Christian context this was still something of a problem. The purpose statement was adjusted accordingly; the invitation list was not.
The conference went on as scheduled. Twenty-six minutes were set aside to discuss the Trinity, which is twenty-six more than were reserved to address the prosperity gospel. Most of those minutes were spent mocking the very idea of theological clarity. The heretic answered “yes” to a list of easy questions - all the while reserving the right to clarify his answers with the old heretical terminology - and then his two purportedly orthodox questioners declared his answers sufficient and proceeded to explain that what the church needs now is love sweet love.
As bad as the conference was, it proved tame in comparison to the defense offered after the fact. When Christendom failed to confirm the proclamation of orthodoxy which had been made, the host of the conference, together with a few of his friends, said: Hey, you’re all racists - except those of you who happen to be black, you’re sell-outs.
While you let that sink in, contemplate this: we’re the haters! Continue at Tom Chantry
Wednesday, February 8, 2012
Putting a Face on Destruction
In all of our discussions, we might forget that the theology we’re
debating has a human face. On the other end of our words, our blogs,
and our preaching are people. Listening people. People who believe and
trust us. People who–tremble at this–take our teaching seriously and
act on it. There may be only a few people in our homes that listen to
us, or there may be several dozen in our churches, or there may be an
untold number across the globe tuning in through some electronic media.
But make no mistake about it, if a tree falls in the woods it does make a sound even if you don’t immediately see anyone around to hear it. They’re there and they’re listening.
A couple of days ago my wife posed a question to me. Standing over
the kitchen counter she asked, “Do you think anyone has really
illustrated what the problem is with Jakes’ teaching?” She explained
that she was quite aware of the many theological discussions at work.
But she was looking for someone to actually illustrate the problems
stemming from the teaching of Jakes and others like him. I pondered
that for a moment and realized she was correct. We didn’t have a
picture of Jakes’ effect on real lives. That’s why I call her “Kristie
the Wise.”
So, perhaps it would be wise for us to stop for a moment to remember
the very real people who sit under the false teaching of people like
T.D. Jakes. We need to put a face on the destruction caused by
heterodoxy (“prosperity gospel”) and heresy (modalism). To that end, I
want to share with you an email I received from a brother after ER2. He
wrote with a concern very similar to my wife’s. He wanted to share his
story as an illustration. I offered to share it anonymously, but he
wanted to leave his name in it–Sean. In his words, he wanted to “put a
face to it.”
Here’s Sean’s brief account: Read it all at Thabiti Anyabwile
Saturday, February 4, 2012
Herding the Elephants
With all the digital ink that’s been spilled surrounding The Elephant
Room 2, it’s been difficult (and a bit wearisome!) trying to keep up
with everything. I thought that I would give it my best shot to corral
some of the most helpful, and some of the most telling, commentary on
the whole situation into a single spot.
Because of the scope of the event, this post will be quite lengthy.
Nevertheless, I hope it will be a benefit to those interested in the
issues.
In Anticipation
- Pretty soon after MacDonald came out endorsing “manifestations” as classical Trinitarian language (which comments have since been revised), Carl Trueman got the ball rolling by asking, “Is Nicene Christianity Important?” Surely not a sign of good things to come.
- A few days later The Cripplegate’s own Nathan Busenitz wrote about the history of the modalist heresy and the history of Jakes’ involvement with modalism.
- Challies followed up the next day with a round-up of where the issues stood at that point. He asked poignant questions that unfortunately would have to be answered in the negative: “Will these men be willing to ask him very difficult, very nuanced, very penetrating questions? … And I don’t mean for the other participants to ask a question that essentially says, ‘You’re not a modalist, right?’ but an honest, searching, penetrating series of questions that will address this concern head-on and will not stop until it is settled. Jakes has given us legitimate cause to be concerned, cause enough to go no further until answers are given. Until that question is settled, nothing else really matters.” Continue at Mike Riccardi
Friday, February 3, 2012
The Trinity, the Definition of Chalcedon, and Oneness Theology
I. Introduction
The doctrine of the Trinity
requires a balanced view of Scripture. That is, since the
doctrine itself is derived from more than one stream of evidence,
it requires that all the evidence be weighed and given authority.
If any of the foundational pillars of the doctrine (monotheism,
the deity of Christ, the person of the Holy Spirit, etc.) be
ignored or even rejected, the resulting doctrinal system will
differ markedly from the orthodox position, and will lose its
claim to be called "biblical." For centuries various
small groups have rejected the doctrine of the Trinity. In modern
times these groups have frequently attracted quite a following;
Jehovah's Witnesses as the modern heirs of Arius have over 3
million people actively engaged in their work; the Church of
Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (the Mormons) are heirs of
ancient polytheism and mystery religions, and nearly 10 million
adhere to their teachings. A smaller number of people, however,
cling to the third-century position of modalism - the teachings
of men such as Sabellius or Praxeas or Noetus. Though fewer in
number, it is this position, popularly called the
"Oneness" teaching, that prompts this paper's
clarification of the Biblical position regarding the doctrine of
the Trinity and the Person of Jesus Christ. Oneness writers
strongly deny the doctrine of the Trinity. In the words of David
K. Bernard,
"The Bible does not teach the
doctrine of the trinity, and trinitarianism actually contradicts
the Bible. It does not add any positive benefit to the Christian
message....the doctrine of the trinity does detract from the
important biblical themes of the oneness of God and the absolute
deity of Jesus Christ." Continue at James White
Thursday, February 2, 2012
Wednesday, February 1, 2012
The Discernment Gap: Showing a Lack of Passion for God's Honor and Glory
Reading the commentary on the Elephant Room 2
events, and in particular, the alleged rehabilitation (repentance?) of
TD Jakes has truly been brought me sadness. Sure, I know that very few
Evangelicals, even scholars, have much experience with modalists and
Oneness advocates, but still, the general ease with which many have been
taken in by such a shallow and brief discussion does not speak well of
the depth of understanding of many today. It also speaks loudly to the
fact that many in Evangelicalism disconnect the honor and glory of God
from the truth He has revealed about Himself. That is, they do not see
that to worship and honor God demands from us our utmost effort to
accurately hear and to follow what He has revealed about Himself,
primarily in Jesus Christ, and the holy Scriptures. To take lightly
God's self-revelation is an affront to the divine majesty, and would not
be the action of a heart that is consumed with passion for its Lord.
The true source of a passion for sound doctrine comes first and foremost
from a heart that has singular attention to the glory and honor of the
object of its passion. Those who "argue doctrine" simply for the sake
of ego or self-gratification do so to their own destruction. Sound
doctrine isn't about personalities or men, it is about truth that
transcends our brief time on earth.
Let's remember some of Jakes' words from ER2. Keeping in mind his statement of faith, which continues to use the modalistic language of "manifestations," and keeping in mind that Jakes does not baptize in the Trinitarian formula (he baptizes in Jesus name only---something oddly ignored by the tribunal who seemed to grant to themselves the ability to proclaim Trinitarian orthodoxy at ER2), let's consider his words. When asked if God manifests Himself in three ways, or exists in three divine Persons, he said that "neither one of them totally get it for me." Now there is a ringing profession of Trinitarianism if I ever heard it. Please, why are so many quick to pass over this direct statement that the historic profession of faith just doesn't quite "totally get it" for Bishop Jakes? Does that really sound like someone who has seen the error of their ways and is ready to abjure error for a sound profession of faith in the truth? Or does it sound like someone who really thinks he is in a position to pick and choose what is comfortable for him given his goals and aims? Continue at James White
Let's remember some of Jakes' words from ER2. Keeping in mind his statement of faith, which continues to use the modalistic language of "manifestations," and keeping in mind that Jakes does not baptize in the Trinitarian formula (he baptizes in Jesus name only---something oddly ignored by the tribunal who seemed to grant to themselves the ability to proclaim Trinitarian orthodoxy at ER2), let's consider his words. When asked if God manifests Himself in three ways, or exists in three divine Persons, he said that "neither one of them totally get it for me." Now there is a ringing profession of Trinitarianism if I ever heard it. Please, why are so many quick to pass over this direct statement that the historic profession of faith just doesn't quite "totally get it" for Bishop Jakes? Does that really sound like someone who has seen the error of their ways and is ready to abjure error for a sound profession of faith in the truth? Or does it sound like someone who really thinks he is in a position to pick and choose what is comfortable for him given his goals and aims? Continue at James White
See Also: Collateral Damage in the Invitation of T.D. Jakes to the Elephant Room
AND - Voddie Baucham and Shepherd’s Conference
Tuesday, January 31, 2012
The Elephant in the Room
This past week a firestorm erupted over the recent “Elephant Room
2.” The controversy centers around the decision to invite Bishop T.D.
Jakes to participate in the event. The central questions in the debate
are 1) whether or not Bishop Jakes holds to the historic, orthodox
doctrine of the Trinity, 2) whether it was appropriate to invite (and
feature) him without first having clarified his position on this
cardinal doctrine, and 3) whether he cleared up the matter.
I was scheduled to speak at Harvest Bible Chapel on the weekend
following ER2 which raised significant questions about my stance on the
matter. While I do not consider it my responsibility to comment on
every controversy, I do recognize my duty to clarify matters with which I
am involved directly, and/or those that impact the congregation I am
called to shepherd. Hence, my explanation now.
My Invitation to ER2
In October of 2011, I was invited to participate in The Elephant Room
2. The invitation followed Mark Dever’s decision to pull out. James
MacDonald called me and asked me to take his place. He also informed me
of the controversy at that time surrounding the invitation to Jakes and
Dever’s decision to pull out, and that Crawford Loritts had agreed to
fill in. I knew James MacDonald only indirectly, and I had only
recently heard of the Elephant Room.
Initially, it sounded like a very good idea to “pin Jakes down” on
the Trinity. My area of emphasis in my theological training is
Evangelism/Apologetics. Moreover, I addressed Jakes’s modalism in my
first book in 2004, so I am well aware of the issues in question, and
believed I could make a contribution. Also, to my delight, James
indicated that Jakes had abandoned Oneness Pentecostalism, rejected
Modalism, and, he believed, Jakes would make that clear at ER2. Continue at Voddie Baucham
See Also: Book Review: T.D. Jakes: Various Works
Saturday, January 28, 2012
T. D. Jakes and the Elephant Room
Questions After the Elephant Room
A Special “Elephant Room 2” Edition of Five to Live By
After the Circus Parade
T.D. Jakes Not Modalist? An Update from the Elephant Room
Comments Open and Closed
My Observations from The Elephant Room 2
Final Thoughts: The Elephant Room 2
Bishop TD Jakes on Oneness
T.D. Jakes, the Trinity, and Truth
ELEPHANT ROOM 2: MAY WE NOW REGARD T.D. JAKES AS TRINITARIAN AND ORTHODOX?
NO COMPROMISE RADIO: CARL TRUEMAN ON THE ELEPHANT ROOM
Coupla-Five Additional Thoughts on the Events of the Week
On asking better questions...
Do You Beat Your Wife?
Report from The Elephant Room Round 2
Attention, Elephant Room Security Personnel...
ER2 and the Ugly Details
On Heretics and Helpfulness: Relating to Those Outside of Orthodoxy
Modalist Heretic T.D. Jakes at Elephant Room- Does Jakes now Affirm the Trinity?
DR. JAMES WHITE TWITTER MINI-COMMENTARY ON T.D. JAKES IN ELEPHANT ROOM2
Quick-Hit Thoughts on ER2
Trevin Wax Offers a Fair Critique of ER2
If only T. D. Jakes was asked…
IMAGE: Mike Corley
Thursday, January 26, 2012
James MacDonald, Modalist and Word-Faith Preacher T. D. Jakes
Today's sally is brought to you courtesy of James MacDonald. You'll forgive me for letting you do your own research for links and specifics; we at Pyro (but not we alone) have been pretty much on top of the situation, and sometimes ahead of the curve. Two of my favorite Tree Falling in the Forest posts were on the topic (this and this).
But anyway, James MacDonald decided to feature well-known
modalist and word-faith preacher T. D. Jakes as a "Christian leader" on
his Elephant Room show. A firestorm of very appropriate concern and
criticism arose. MacDonald responded alternately by chest-thumping,
backtracking, then more chest-thumping. Many wondered how this guy could
be associated with The Gospel Coalition while seeming to be relatively
unconcerned about, you know, the gospel.
As usual, Phil Johnson put it best: "The collective leadership of TGC are going to have to decide which is more important: the Gospel, or the Coalition."
Well no, it turns out, they won't.
In a solution that solves nothing, James MacDonald has resigned from TGC leadership, as that leadership has acknowledged. In making this acknowledgement, however, they only compliment the departing brother, and make no direct reference to his hosting a heretic as a Christian leader. So that problem is unsolved.
What does MacDonald himself say? Oh, this and that, about what you might expect. He's making his priorities pretty clear to everyone, I daresay, and I hope the effect is salutary.
My focus is this bit from MacDonald's post: Read the rest at Dan Phillips
Well no, it turns out, they won't.
In a solution that solves nothing, James MacDonald has resigned from TGC leadership, as that leadership has acknowledged. In making this acknowledgement, however, they only compliment the departing brother, and make no direct reference to his hosting a heretic as a Christian leader. So that problem is unsolved.
What does MacDonald himself say? Oh, this and that, about what you might expect. He's making his priorities pretty clear to everyone, I daresay, and I hope the effect is salutary.
My focus is this bit from MacDonald's post: Read the rest at Dan Phillips
Monday, October 31, 2011
The Elephant in the Elephant Room
One of the
more recent entries to the conservative Christian conference line-up is
the Elephant Room, the brainchild of James MacDonald. The idea was to
bring Christian leaders together for some brotherly sparing over
“elephant-in-the-room” issues. Pleased with the results of the first
conference in March 2011, they’re prepared for the second in January
2012. This Elephant Room “Round 2” is being promoted like a prize fight:
“Your ringside seat awaits,” and “You know the rules…No wavering. No
Sidestepping. No excuses.”

MacDonald recently lit up the blogosphere when he invited T.D. Jakes to join ER2. Does he really intend to extend the boundaries of Christian brotherhood to a well-known anti-Trinitarian modalist, prosperity preacher? MacDonald received a fair bit of well-deserved criticism and, rather than rethinking his decision, he dug in his heels and defended it. He doesn’t think Jakes is still a modalist. Jakes is still a’ comin’ to ER2.
(Stir up a little controversy, you get instant publicity and free promotion. You gotta admit, it’s kinda clever.)
I’ve very much appreciated the thoughtful criticisms posted by Thabiti Anyabwile, Carl Trueman, and Phil Johnson. At some point, you should read those posts; they are instructive on many levels.
But I’d like to go back to Round 1 of the Elephant Room and the video Mark Driscoll posted on his website. That particular session was about the place of culture in the church, specifically asking whether or not it was a good idea for Perry Noble to open his 2010 Easter service with AC/DC’s blasphemous song, “Highway to Hell.” (No, I’m not kidding.) Evidently, that’s how Perry and his peeps “engage the culture.” Keep Reading >>>
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MacDonald recently lit up the blogosphere when he invited T.D. Jakes to join ER2. Does he really intend to extend the boundaries of Christian brotherhood to a well-known anti-Trinitarian modalist, prosperity preacher? MacDonald received a fair bit of well-deserved criticism and, rather than rethinking his decision, he dug in his heels and defended it. He doesn’t think Jakes is still a modalist. Jakes is still a’ comin’ to ER2.
(Stir up a little controversy, you get instant publicity and free promotion. You gotta admit, it’s kinda clever.)
I’ve very much appreciated the thoughtful criticisms posted by Thabiti Anyabwile, Carl Trueman, and Phil Johnson. At some point, you should read those posts; they are instructive on many levels.
But I’d like to go back to Round 1 of the Elephant Room and the video Mark Driscoll posted on his website. That particular session was about the place of culture in the church, specifically asking whether or not it was a good idea for Perry Noble to open his 2010 Easter service with AC/DC’s blasphemous song, “Highway to Hell.” (No, I’m not kidding.) Evidently, that’s how Perry and his peeps “engage the culture.” Keep Reading >>>
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Monday, October 3, 2011
Collateral Damage in the Invitation of T.D. Jakes to the Elephant Room
In 2007, the Lord granted me the privilege of publishing The Decline of African-American Theology: From Biblical Faith to Cultural Captivity (IVP).
The book was a labor of sorrow and love–sorrow because of how sharp
and deep theological decline has been since the first writing African
Americans of the late 1700s and early 1800s, and love because I ache to
see my kinsmen according to the flesh brought into the gracious realms
of God’s salvation. For me, the book was an attempt to (a) accurately
trace the history of African-American theology using available primary
source material, and (b) fulfill a pastoral obligation to advance the
gospel and refute error (Titus 1:9).
Because the book “breaks rank” and “the party line,” I expected to be
alone against an avalanche of criticism and angry protest. But the
Lord has a people who have not bowed the knee to the baals of
theological heresy, a people who want to know the truth and who
instinctively if not explicitly knew something had gone wrong in the
African-American church. Jesus’ sheep hear and know His voice, and they
follow Him. Instead of an avalanche of criticism, I’ve pretty much
heard a chorus of “Finally” and “It’s about time!”
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Wednesday, June 23, 2010
Sabellius: Know Your Heretics
Sabellius, a third-century theologian and priest, was a proponent of modalism. Modalism is a non-Trinitarian heresy claiming that the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are simply different modes of God and not distinct persons within the Godhead. Little is known about Sabellius, who was excommunicated in 220 AD, but the teaching attached to his name became infamous and is still with us today.Sabellius’ View of God
The modalists were rightly concerned with maintaining the oneness of God as well as the full deity of Christ. However, this led them to the error of seeing any suggestion that the Son was a distinct person from the Father as creating a duality within the Godhead.
Early historian Hippolytus summarized the modalist position as one in which the names “Father,” “Son,” and “Holy Spirit” did not stand for real distinctions in the Godhead, but rather mere names that described the actions of the one God at different times in history. In other words, “Father,” “Son,” and “Spirit” are merely adjectives describing how the one divine Being acts and is perceived. Read the rest HERE
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